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Rates in Implicitly Defined Curves

Learn to relate coordinate rates on an implicitly defined parabola and recognize when dividing to find a rate is not valid.

Intermediate 10 min read

What You'll Learn

  • Differentiate an equation in \(x\) and \(y\) when both coordinates vary with time.
  • Use the chain rule to relate the coordinate rates along a curve.
  • Find a coordinate rate on a parabola from the point and the other rate.
  • Interpret positive and negative rates with appropriate units.
  • Explain why the rate relation cannot determine one coordinate rate at a vertex.

When a Moving Point Must Stay on a Curve

A point moving along a curve has coordinates that change with time. If the curve is given by an equation relating \(x\) and \(y\), that equation remains true throughout the motion. Differentiating it with respect to time gives a relationship between the rates \(\frac{dx}{dt}\) and \(\frac{dy}{dt}\).

This is useful when a curve is known implicitly, or when neither coordinate is best treated as an independent variable. The key is to remember that both coordinates may depend on time. In particular, differentiating a term involving \(y\) requires the chain rule.

Definition: A moving point constrained to an implicitly defined curve \(F(x,y)=0\) has time-dependent coordinates \(x(t)\) and \(y(t)\) satisfying \(F(x(t),y(t))=0\). Their instantaneous coordinate rates are \(\frac{dx}{dt}\) and \(\frac{dy}{dt}\).

The Rate Equation for an Implicit Curve

Suppose \(F\) is differentiable and a moving point satisfies \(F(x(t),y(t))=0\). The multivariable chain rule gives

$$ \frac{d}{dt}F(x(t),y(t)) = F_x(x(t),y(t))\frac{dx}{dt} + F_y(x(t),y(t))\frac{dy}{dt} =0. $$

Here, \(F_x\) and \(F_y\) are the partial derivatives of \(F\) with respect to its first and second variables. This equation is the instantaneous rate constraint. If \(F_y\ne 0\) at the point, it can be rearranged to find the \(y\)-rate:

$$ \frac{dy}{dt} = -\frac{F_x}{F_y}\frac{dx}{dt}. $$

The division is valid only when \(F_y\ne 0\). When \(F_y=0\), the rate equation may still be useful, but this rearrangement is not allowed. The equation might impose a condition on \(\frac{dx}{dt}\) without determining \(\frac{dy}{dt}\).

Why the rule works: The point stays on the curve, so \(F(x(t),y(t))\) is the constant zero as time changes. Its derivative must therefore be zero. The chain rule accounts for the change in \(F\) caused by each changing coordinate, giving \(F_x\frac{dx}{dt}+F_y\frac{dy}{dt}=0\).

Applying the Rule to a Parabola

Consider the parabola \(y^2=4x\). Both coordinates can vary with time, so differentiate both sides with respect to \(t\). The right side differentiates to \(4\frac{dx}{dt}\). On the left, the chain rule gives \(2y\frac{dy}{dt}\), not just \(2y\).

$$ 2y\frac{dy}{dt}=4\frac{dx}{dt}. $$

At a point where \(y\ne 0\), division by \(2y\) gives

$$ \frac{dy}{dt} = \frac{2}{y}\frac{dx}{dt}. $$

This relation makes the rate depend on the point as well as the horizontal rate. The sign of \(y\) matters: the upper and lower branches of the parabola can have different vertical rates for the same horizontal rate.

Worked Example: Finding the Vertical Rate on the Upper Branch

A point moves along \(y^2=4x\). At an instant, it is at \((x,y)=(9,6)\), and \(\frac{dx}{dt}=2\) centimeters per second. Find \(\frac{dy}{dt}\) at that instant.

First check that the stated point lies on the curve:

$$ y^2=6^2=36, \qquad 4x=4(9)=36. $$

Differentiate the curve equation with respect to time:

$$ 2y\frac{dy}{dt}=4\frac{dx}{dt}. $$

Substitute \(y=6\) and \(\frac{dx}{dt}=2\) centimeters per second:

$$ 2(6)\frac{dy}{dt}=4(2), \qquad 12\frac{dy}{dt}=8, \qquad \frac{dy}{dt}=\frac{8}{12}=\frac{2}{3}. $$

Thus the point's vertical rate is \(\frac{2}{3}\) centimeters per second. Check the result in the differentiated constraint:

$$ 2(6)\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)=8, \qquad 4(2)=8. $$

Both sides agree. The positive rate means \(y\) is increasing at this instant.

Worked Example: A Point on the Lower Branch

A point moves along \(y^2=8x\). At \((2,-4)\), its horizontal rate is \(\frac{dx}{dt}=3\) meters per second. Find its vertical rate.

Verify the point satisfies the curve equation:

$$ y^2=(-4)^2=16, \qquad 8x=8(2)=16. $$

Differentiate with respect to time:

$$ 2y\frac{dy}{dt}=8\frac{dx}{dt}. $$

Substitute the point and the given rate, keeping the negative \(y\)-coordinate:

$$ 2(-4)\frac{dy}{dt}=8(3), \qquad -8\frac{dy}{dt}=24, \qquad \frac{dy}{dt}=-3. $$

The vertical rate is \(-3\) meters per second. Check the rate constraint:

$$ 2(-4)(-3)=24, \qquad 8(3)=24. $$

The equality holds. The negative sign indicates that \(y\) is decreasing, even though \(x\) is increasing.

What Happens at the Vertex?

The vertex of \(y^2=4x\) is \((0,0)\). At this point \(y=0\), so the equation \(2y\frac{dy}{dt}=4\frac{dx}{dt}\) becomes

$$ 0=4\frac{dx}{dt}. $$

Consequently, any differentiable motion on this parabola that passes through the vertex must have \(\frac{dx}{dt}=0\) at that instant. But the equation says nothing about \(\frac{dy}{dt}\) there. Dividing by \(y\) to use \(\frac{dy}{dt}=\frac{2}{y}\frac{dx}{dt}\) would mean dividing by zero.

Worked Example: Showing the Rate Relation Is Singular at the Vertex

Consider the motion \(y(t)=2t\) and \(x(t)=t^2\). At every time, this point satisfies the parabola equation because

$$ y(t)^2=(2t)^2=4t^2, \qquad 4x(t)=4(t^2)=4t^2. $$

At \(t=0\), the point is at the vertex. Its coordinate rates are

$$ \frac{dy}{dt}=2, \qquad \frac{dx}{dt}=2t, \qquad \left.\frac{dx}{dt}\right|_{t=0}=0. $$

Check the differentiated constraint at the vertex:

$$ 2y\frac{dy}{dt}=2(0)(2)=0, \qquad 4\frac{dx}{dt}=4(0)=0. $$

The constraint is satisfied, and the actual vertical rate is \(2\). Yet the rate equation at that point alone is \(0=0\), so it does not determine that value. For instance, for any constant \(k\), the motion \(y(t)=kt\), \(x(t)=\frac{k^2t^2}{4}\) also stays on \(y^2=4x\), passes through the vertex at \(t=0\), and has \(\frac{dx}{dt}=0\) there. Its vertical rate at that instant is \(k\), which can vary.

This is a singularity of the rate relation when solving for \(\frac{dy}{dt}\), not evidence that the parabola itself has a break or sharp corner. At the vertex the parabola has a vertical tangent, so a small change in \(y\) corresponds to a change in \(x\) that is especially small. The horizontal rate alone cannot tell us the vertical rate at that instant.

A Reliable Differentiation and Solving Process

1
Write the curve constraint.
Use an equation that the moving coordinates satisfy at all times, such as \(y^2=4x\).
2
Differentiate with respect to time.
Apply the chain rule to every term containing a changing coordinate.
3
Substitute the instant's data.
Use the coordinates and known rate, with signs and units intact.
4
Check before dividing.
Confirm the coefficient you plan to divide by is not zero; then solve and substitute the result back into the rate equation.

Common Mistake: Dividing at a Zero Coefficient

A tempting but invalid step is to differentiate \(y^2=4x\), write \(\frac{dy}{dt}=\frac{2}{y}\frac{dx}{dt}\), and then use that formula at the vertex. At \(y=0\), the expression \(\frac{2}{y}\) is undefined. It is not repaired by substituting \(\frac{dx}{dt}=0\), since that would produce an undefined quotient rather than a rate.

The correction is to return to the undivided equation \(2y\frac{dy}{dt}=4\frac{dx}{dt}\). At the vertex it yields \(\frac{dx}{dt}=0\), but does not determine \(\frac{dy}{dt}\). Additional information about the motion would be needed to find that rate.

Why the Rate Relation Matters

The curve equation connects the two coordinate changes, while the derivative describes how that connection works at an instant. Away from the vertex, knowing one coordinate rate and the point determines the other. At the vertex, the coefficient needed to solve for the vertical rate vanishes, revealing a limitation of the available information rather than a calculation to force through.

For any implicitly defined curve, the same check applies. From \(F_x\frac{dx}{dt}+F_y\frac{dy}{dt}=0\), solve for \(\frac{dy}{dt}\) only when \(F_y\ne 0\). At a point where \(F_y=0\), keep the original rate equation and interpret what it actually implies.

Check Your Understanding

Use the implicit rate equation and check whether any division you make is valid.

  1. For \(y^2=4x\), a point is at \((4,4)\) and \(\frac{dx}{dt}=5\). Find \(\frac{dy}{dt}\), including units if the rates are in meters per second.
  2. For \(y^2=4x\), a point is at \((4,-4)\) and \(\frac{dx}{dt}=5\). How does the vertical rate compare with the rate in the first question?
  3. Differentiate \(y^2=8x\) with respect to time. State the condition needed to solve the resulting equation for \(\frac{dy}{dt}\).
  4. At the vertex of \(y^2=4x\), what does the differentiated equation imply about \(\frac{dx}{dt}\)? Does it determine \(\frac{dy}{dt}\)?
  5. Explain why substituting \(y=0\) into \(\frac{dy}{dt}=\frac{2}{y}\frac{dx}{dt}\) is invalid.

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